Grateful Dead Live at Frost Amphitheatre on 1985-04-28
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|Gimme Some Lovin' ->|
|Mississippi Half-Step ->|
|Tons Of Steel|
|China Cat Sunflower >|
|I Know You Rider|
|She Belongs To Me|
|Hell In A Bucket ->|
|Crazy Fingers ->|
|Playing In The Band ->|
|China Doll ->|
|Playing In The Band Jam ->|
|PLayin' In The Band Reprise ->|
|Wharf Rat ->|
|Throwing Stones ->|
|Not Fade Away|
flac16 **NEW UPGRADE** Source Updated CD Burner changed
Recording Info: SBD -> Cassette Master -> Cassette -> CD (Marantz CDR
Transfer Info: CD -> EAC -> Samplitude Professional v8.0 -> FLAC
Transferred and Edited By Charlie Miller
- Palo Alto, CA
- <b>flac16</b> **NEW UPGRADE** Source Updated CD Burner changedRecording Info: SBD -> Cassette Master -> Cassette -> CD (Marantz CDR 500 Pro)Transfer Info: CD -> EAC -> Samplitude Professional v8.0 -> FLACTransferred and Edited By Charlie Miller
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- Frost Amphitheatre
Subject: The Frost before the Greek
2nd of two then-annual Frost shows - the band's founding locale. The show is sometimes noted for the Playin' sammich and the rare She Belongs to Me (but there are better highlights). The 1st set may have several near-trainwrecks, but the best parts are stratowerken. There are no great 2nd set SBDs - at least not for an '85. All have some slow wow/flutter/warbling toward the second half, and pitch errors.
First Set. It's a bit shaky getting going on this set, but stick with it. Even Half-Step Mississippi doesn't bode well, but... Minglewood is aced (hometown fillies/t right here at Stanford). Just absolutely awesome leads and fills from Jer. Note that there are no tunings between these first songs. The SBD has almost zero hall ambience or audience for Bird Song, which is nonetheless hot. But somehow they're not on the same beat for Tons of Steel. China Cat is flubby and brilliant at the same time, giving little indication of what's coming. I Know You Rider may be the best of '85 and is certainly one of the best of the '80s, period. Jer goes hyper, Bobby is great.
Second Set. Hellina is alright but Crazy Fingers only gets by with a few touchy sections. Just saving up for the great Playin'. Check how Bobby does the cool transposing tranny in, to a great, bright, uptempo (even pitch corrected) , dancing version. There's a nice little jam from China Doll to Drums. It's not actually a Playin', it's just everyone staying out as Drums starts. Not a very notable Space but it goes into an actual Playin'. There's a wobble/wow on the SBD for Wharf Rat, and when it settles @6min there's a pitch change. Throwing Stones is missing 1:14min @2:59 (but the AUDs are complete). These are all average versions but Not Fade has the nice, non-clap ending. U.S. Blues is delightfully careening and the She Belongs to Me bonus encore was a first for the Bay crowd (unless you saw them play it in the coffee shop across the street 20yrs prior). It's not 9/15, but it's good (all copies, including the official, have pitch errors).
1st Set: B-
2nd Set: C
Overall = 3 stars
New Minglewood Blues - awesome detail
I Know You Rider - good god this is good
Playing in the Band - 1st one; dancer
SOURCES: The best AUD overall is the 140825_fob_nak700_wagner, which upgraded the 124404_nak700_wagner (best AUD for a Throwing Stones patch). The best 1st set SBD is the sirmick_77406, which also has a full (patched) Gimme Some Lovin'. The best 2nd set is the miller_28439 (less muffled; better balance), which is the same as miller_28357 but with slightly better image and balance. However, it has a cut in Throwing Stones [the SBDs do], and runs too fast, needing -2% pitch until Wharf Rat, where it then needs -1%. She Belongs to Me is on Garcia Plays Dylan, however there was a mastering error on this release and this track drags, needing +2% pitch.
Subject: bread crumb
Subject: Jerry on point! Great SQ! Definite keeper.
Don't follow the order the show is presented in, the double encore is placed before the 2nd set!
Bucket doesn't apply any break to open the 2nd. Bob, Brent, Jerry and Phil tear the doors off for more X. Crazy Fingers has a strange intro to the outro jam which is executed to great effect. Nice segue into PITB with a good tempo. The jam defines the idea of a power slot jam. Jerry varies between sustained notes and lightning noodles. A soothing China Doll features a stellar segue back to the PITB Reprise before a Jerry-less jam that explores before collapsing into a solid Drums/Space with an Olin Arageed (spelling?).
The unfinished PITB Reprise comes out of the psychedelic session. A quick hint of Throwing Stones before Wharf Rat with a nice solo, but lacking a major crash down. Throwing Stones is a bit rushed with a cut that takes us into the jam. Jerry lays down some true love in NFA.
Double encore of US Blues and She Belongs to Me finishes up nicely. Blues is a full blown rockfest, whereas She Belongs is a nice send off to the night... lest there be reckless behavior after the show.
First set brims with energy, with Phil and Jerry being the all-stars. Pre-drums is without a weakness, as PITB>China Doll takes us to drums. Post-Space is sufficient, while not the best ever. The double encore send off is a bonus.
A+, I turned Phil down on the EQ, resorting to the common Lazy Left-side W formation (lows lower than mids or highs). Brent is a little low in the mix, I offer no fix.
Subject: great sound, has some highlights
Subject: China Doll > Playing Jam
Subject: crackling sound
Subject: Sweet China 'White' Doll at Frost :)
Nice job again CM, great work! It's always appreciated bro.
this is an extremely phenom show. brent is on some serious voyage to challenge the reigning supreme being who owns the keyboards ready to kick him off his throne...
this is as intense and in your face as 85 can be....
a great bird song! 4 stars...
Subject: best one